by SweetPea (Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:39 am)
The trouble with that understanding, though valuable in itself, is that in order to be more, it has to provide figures that are meaningful with respect to the surface temperature record.
If temperatures of the surface datasets and satellite datasets do not show rise, and it's assumed that the energy went into the deep ocean, vs any of the other explanations given, aerosols or whatever, then we still need to know that the ocean was not responsible for other warming...Trenberth says it can come right out at ya.
So this will be the first time it does it like that? Or were earlier periods like that too?
How would we know if temperature goes up next year, if it was the ocean, not CO2?
The Trenberth style engine stuff needs you to assume things that aren't accepted by everyone, and experts say not enough good data there yet.
The deep ocean would hold so much, that changes would be minute and quite difficult to detect.
Were stuck with global temperature for now.
Extreme storm records do not match up with recorded temperature that well...
The surface temp datasets are the main foundational items to tell climate change by - still.
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The trouble with that understanding, though valuable in itself, is that in order to be more, it has to provide figures that are meaningful with respect to the surface temperature record.
If temperatures of the surface datasets and satellite datasets do not show rise, and it's assumed that the energy went into the deep ocean, vs any of the other explanations given, aerosols or whatever, then we still need to know that the ocean was not responsible for other warming...Trenberth says it can come right out at ya.
So this will be the first time it does it like that? Or were earlier periods like that too?
How would we know if temperature goes up next year, if it was the ocean, not CO2?
The Trenberth style engine stuff needs you to assume things that aren't accepted by everyone, and experts say not enough good data there yet.
The deep ocean would hold so much, that changes would be minute and quite difficult to detect.
Were stuck with global temperature for now.
Extreme storm records do not match up with recorded temperature that well...
The surface temp datasets are the main foundational items to tell climate change by - still.
Read Main Topic